Monday, December 21, 2015

Elderberry vs. Atropa: hospitalization and a Psych ward. Hardly unscathed.

I've been away since late October on travel and now back home.
Checking the email connected to my book and blog has been interesting to say the least.

I'm going to touch base on a particular email I received from a man in the Army without using his name, I don't feel that he would mind. I believe that his accidental experience with Atropa Belladonna can be used to help and to educate others ...

"I recently picked and ate anywhere from 15 to 25 belladonna berries thinking they were elderberries.  I have spent the last 5 days in the hospital and psych ward for obvious reasons luckily I am 6'3 230 pounds.  I have not been deletions or had any halucinations for about 40 hours however I am still dizzy and light headed and it seems like my brain isn't putting things together like it should.  So I was wondering if you have heard or read or know if it is possible that I might have any permanent effects from it"?

I have responded to him, but I would like to also take the opportunity to explain the difference between Atropa Belladonna and Elderberries as they do appear similar.

Atropa Belladonna

A single Atropa berry will grow in the center of a single "star" shaped leaf but can have many "stars" with small berries on its stems.

The bell-shaped flowers are purple with green tinges and faintly scented.



More about Atropa



Elderberry (
Sambucus) on the other hand, although also a black appearing small berry, will grow in "bunches" located on many thin stems, not in the center of a star or leaf. The leaves will be independent of its berries. They bear large clusters of small white or cream-colored flowers in late spring.

Elderberry flower

Contrary to popular belief, the "uncooked" elderberry is poisonous. 

The leaves, twigs, branches, seeds, and roots of Sambucus plants can contain a cyanide-inducing glycoside (a glycoside which gives rise to cyanide as it is metabolised).

Ingesting a sufficient quantity of 
cyanide-inducing glycosides can cause a toxic buildup of cyanide in the body.

Its my understanding that for many years, many people have cooked these berries to use as a syrup,
key word being "cooked".

One last note before I end this post;

I never recommend eating berries or plant material of any kind unless you are 100% sure that you know what you are ingesting. Many plants, berries and flowers look alike and unless you can identify what they are and their species with certainty, never ingest them. The common misconception is that few plants are toxic or that the chances of finding a poisonous plant while on a walk or a hike is rare.

This is simply not true. Many plants are poisonous.

Let me use Angel's Trumpet for example ...

You will not find Angel's Trumpet growing just anywhere, but your chances of stumbling on Jimson Weed (sometimes referred to as Datura) which contains the same poison as Angels Trumpet (tropane alkaloids) is quite common in many areas throughout the country because it grows wild in many places.

Sometimes people mistake Jimson Weed for "wild" morning glories, not realizing just how poisonous Jimson Weed is.

Jimson Weed in and of itself is certainly post worthy, but for another day.

Saturday, October 24, 2015

So you want detail? You don't know what to believe about scopolamine / Devils breath?

So you want some details? That's why your here right?
Not sure 
what to believe about Scopolamine / Devils breath?

This is why Scopolamine / Devils Breath is considered
to be the MOST dangerous drug
on earth ...

Putting aside the crime that you have likely most often heard or read about that requires scopolamine to rob a victim, there is another crime that requires the use of scopolamine and it is this particular "white collar crime" that demonstrates the fierce reputation and capability of scopolamine that lends itself to it's notorious name; "Devil's Breath".

When an individual is poisoned with high, repeated doses of Scopolamine, insufficient to kill, they suffer permanent memory loss, the brain in response to this will confabulate and
a person highly skilled with the dark side and use of scopolamine could in fact change your entire person, who you are and ... forever and you would never realize what happened.

Memory loss and Confabulation
Read through to understand what this is about

Confabulate: “Fabricate imaginary experiences as compensation for loss of memory

It is a memory disturbance, defined as the production of fabricated, distorted or misinterpreted memories about oneself or the world, without the conscious intention to deceive.

* The person is unaware the information is false

* The person is generally very confident about their recollections, despite contradictory evidence and may argue feverishly defending their recollections, even if they are false

* Confabulation is a normal response to a faulty memory, and are common in both amnesia and dementia

Confabulation is associated with several characteristics:
1.   Typically verbal statements but can also be non-verbal gestures or actions.
2.   Can include autobiographical and non-personal information, such as historical facts, fairytales, or other aspects of semantic memory.
3.   The account can be fantastic or coherent.
4.   Both the premise and the details of the account can be false.
5.   The account is usually drawn from the patient’s memory of actual experiences, including past and current thoughts.
6.   The patient is unaware of the accounts’ distortions or inappropriateness, and is not concerned when errors are pointed out.
7.   There is no hidden motivation behind the account.
8.   The patient’s personality structure may play a role in their readiness to confabulate. 

The most popular accepted theory of confabulation come from the field of neuropsychology or cognitive neuroscience.

Research suggests that confabulation is associated with dysfunction of cognitive processes that control the retrieval from long-term memory.

Frontal lobe damage often disrupts this process, preventing the retrieval of information and the evaluation of its output.

In particular, damage can be localized to the ventromedial frontal lobes and other structures fed by the anterior communicating artery, including the basal forebrain, septum, fornix, cingulate gyrus, cingulum, anterior hypothalamus, and head of the caudate nucleus

The basal forebrain is considered to be the major cholinergic output of the central nervous system.

Scopolamine is an anti - cholinergic

The role of scopolamine

Scopolamine prevents / blocks the brain from making Acetylcholine which is a neurotransmitter in the brain.

Acetylcholine is an organic molecule that acts as a neurotransmitter in many organisms, including humans and greatly effects: Excitability, InhibitionDecision making and Cognitive function

Acetylcholine synthesis involves various precursors, enzymes, and receptors, and dysfunction in these components lead to delirium.

It is typified by fluctuating course, attentional deficits and generalized severe disorganization of behavior. It typically involves other cognitive deficits, changes in arousal (hyperactive, hypoactive, or mixed), perceptual deficits, altered sleep-wake cycle, and psychotic features such as hallucinations and delusions.

Acetylcholine affects the ability of brain cells to transmit information to one another, and also encourages plasticity, or learning.

Damage to the basal forebrain reduces the amount of acetylcholine in the brain and impair learning.

Basal forebrain damage can result in memory impairments
such as amnesia and confabulation.

High, repeated doses of scopolamine cause organic brain damage (basal forebrain damage) thereby reducing acetylcholine in the brain and therefore memory impairments occur depending on the degree of damage and reduction of acetylcholine.

As a normal response to the memory loss, the brain begins the process of confabulation and it makes up stories to fill in the gaps.

Make no mistake, high repeated doses of scopolamine can also cause, make, create or plummet a person into what I call R.E.S. (Rudy Eugene Syndrome) very quickly.

Studies finally confirm what I had been teaching for years; that an animal such as a cat, when injected with scopolamine into their forebrain area will be provoked / induced to "KILL" and it is the same with humans.

When you hear that a person under the influence of scopolamine
acts robotic like and does anything they are told upon command,
yet still looks and acts fairly normal,
part of the reason for this is as follows:

1. Scopolamine blocks acetylcholine, even in small doses. A person would not appear drugged or drunk but would instead be internally suffering minor to severe confusion and hallucinations, but would externally appear “normal”, again depending upon the degree of the dosing

2. A person drugged with scopolamine lacks the ability to realize that they are drugged and suffer confusion because the reduction of acetylcholine is insidious and would not be experienced by the person as if they were to shoot back 3 or 4 shots of alcohol.

3. When acetylcholine is blocked, because this impairs learning, memory and decision making, because acetylcholine effects inhibition and excitability and because a person isn’t able to realize that they are drugged while they are drugged, a person while drugged with scopolamine is not capable of rationalizing, thinking clearly or making decisions and therefore cannot distinguish between right and wrong and is therefore highly susceptible to and likely to engage in anything they would not normally do, especially when provoked.

4. Additionally, when acetylcholine is blocked, memory is severely impaired and is why the person can’t remember what happened after the drug wears off.

After reading the above, what do you think would happen if a person were to be drugged with high, repeated doses of scopolamine over time, yet insufficient to kill them?

1. They would not appear drugged

2. They would not realize they were drugged

3. They could not distinguish between right and wrong & therefore would engage in things they would not normally engage in

4. They would suffer permanent memory loss.

5. They would confabulate due to the memory loss

Now let’s see how this is today, being exploited by skilled criminals and why scopolamine is considered the MOST dangerous drug on earth …

Let’s say a criminal drugged a wealthy person and that wealthy person was coerced into engaging in behavior they would not normally engage in such as; signing legal documents, closing a bank account, removing or adding someone to a bank account etc.

1. They would not appear drugged

2. They would not realize that they are drugged

3. They could not distinguish between right and wrong & therefore would engage in things they would not normally engage in

Now let’s say that same wealthy person who was given high, repeated doses of scopolamine actually did sign legal documents, signed everything over to the criminals, signed other important legal docs or began making sudden financial and personal changes that would normally be considered "out of their character" to family.

It's been my experience that when these criminals drug people for their money  as with this particular crime, they will create, through manipulation, "valid" reasons inside the wealthy persons mind to get him / her to permanently separate themselves from their family and they will do it very quickly.

Due to permanent brain damage and memory loss, the wealthy person would then confabulate and with the help of the criminal’s manipulation of the wealthy persons mind, when family begins getting concerned and they begin to ask questions, the reply from the wealthy person who has been unkowingly manipulated, soon outwardly rationalizes his sudden life altering decisions as follows:

“I’m a consenting adult, I signed those documents of my own accord, I wasn’t drugged, you are just out to get me"

"My business partner was trying to destroy me"

“I can’t have contact with my family because they have been abusing me for years”
“How can someone steal from me when I’m the one making the decisions?”

It is always these statements, delivered by the so-called “consenting adults”
who after they are no longer drugged ...

A. do not realize they were ever drugged

B. do not realize that they suffered any brain damage at all (because scopolamine poisoning is so insidious – it’s not like experiencing severe head trauma as in a serious accident)

C. do not recognize that their memory has been intentionally manipulated through the exploitation of confabulation, due to their memory loss

D. believe and will argue strenuously that their memory is intact and is their true memory

The legal, financial and emotional challenge then is this:

How does family prove something happened or that the wealthy person was drugged with scopolamine, when the wealthy person who is a legal “consenting adult” feverishly believes that their new memories are their real memories and he / she doesn’t believe that their memory has been manipulated? How about when they believe the false memories of their family?

Family can do nothing. There is literally nothing you can do.

And that’s what these criminals rely on, and they accomplish all of it in under 1 month and right under the noses of family, friends and co-workers.


Because the entire time that the victim is drugged, they outwardly appears “normal” because the reduction and / or blockage of acetylcholine acts insidiously.

Of course for all of this to happen, there must first be a 3 to 4 hour window that the victim must remain in the care of the criminal, after the victim is drugged with scopolamine each time, for the criminals to pull off such a crime.

But details on that will be saved for a post for another day.

Thursday, September 3, 2015

Read how Scopolamine / Devils Breath does what it does

It's easy for people to say something doesn't exist or that something isn't capable of doing all the horrible things that scopolamine (Devils Breath) is claimed to do. 

However, when you have an understanding of how it can and why it can, you are no longer struggling to believe in the concept that a drug ...

"can remove your free-will", or "it can make you do anything through a command,
including empty your own bank account" etc.

The wording lends itself to the non-belief of its capabilities, because it is almost sureal that a drug that could do those things, could possibly exist.

But when you are instead provided the necessary knowledge of what it actually does once inside the brain & body, then you have a better understanding of how it does the evil that it does, instead of having a preconcieved, science fictioness image in your mind the almost forces people to debunk it's existance.

I get highly irritated when I hear people debunk Devils Breath, claim that it doesn't exist or that Scopolamine (Devils Breath) just can't do what it is claimed to do. I get irritated because not a single person who makes claims that it can't do what it is claimed to do ever explains how it can't or provides any information to substantiate why it can't or how it can't exist.

After what I have seen, what I know and how it is made, used and after watching first hand its capabilities, these people who tell you that Devils Breath doesn't exist or can't do what it is often claimed to do are doing themselves and you a great disservice.

I recently watched a man in a low level health related field boast to people with such confidence that there was no way that Devils Breath existed and no drug that could do what Devils Breath is claimed to do.

When I asked him to explain how he knew, he stood there staring at me with that "deer in the head light" look.

So I asked him to provide me with the same information in which he drew his confident, authoritive conclusion from.

He literally had no answer. What he should have said was that he would prefer to believe that it didn't exist.

If it didn't exist, nerve gas would not do what it does. Thats right, its used in nerve gas.

Now let me get more specific about Scopolamine: "Devils Breath" ....

Let me start here:

(ACh) pronounced ah-Seh-til-KO-leen

Acetylcholine is an organic molecule that acts as a neurotransmitter and greatly effects: Excitability, Inhibition & Decision making.

Acetylcholine also plays an extensive role in attention and consciousness. Acetylcholine is synthesized in nerve cells making up the cholinergic pathway especially those found in the Basal Forebrain & Hyppocampus (memory & learning)

The basal forebrain is considered to be the major cholinergic output of the central nervous system. 
These structures in the Basal Forebrain are important in the production of acetylcholine.

Acetylcholine is then distributed widely throughout the brain.

Scopolamine is an anti-cholinergic, it is a tropane alkaloid drug with muscarinic antagonist. 

Muscarinic receptor antagonist (MRA) is an agent that blocks the activity of the muscarinic acetylcholine receptor.

Any irregularities in the blockage or production of acetycholine and the basal forebrain functions cause core symptoms of both hypoactive and hyperactive delirium, disorganized thinking, and perceptual disturbances (hallucinations)

Scopolamine “blocks or suppresses the acetylcholine receptor activity” thereby preventing a cholinergic neuron to return to its resting state after activation.

This means that anti-cholinergics block or prohibit the Basal Forbrain from producing Acetylcholine, thereby suppressing or blocking signal transmission, esp. effecting:
memory, attention, consciousness, decision making etc.

Additionally, by suppressing or blocking signal transmission, among other things, the reduction or prevention of acetylcholine actually prevents the retrieval of old memories from interfering with the making of new memories.

If acetylcholine is blocked repeatedly, for a prolonged period of time, permanent brain damage results, as occurs when blocked by long term, high doses of scopolamine.

FYI: In general, Central Nervous System neurons do not regenerate well after brain damage (remember this)

FYI: Many people have been given the scopolamine patch for nausea, motion sickness etc. here is why it works:

Acetylcholine has the ability to mimic the electrical stimulation of the
 vagus nerve.

The vagus nerve has branches that run from the brainstem to the larynx (voicebox) and controls the movement of the vocal cords.

Anticholinergics such as scopolamine and atropine are called vagolytic because they inhibit the action of the vagus nerve on many organs, including the vocal cords and can cause vocal cord paralysis. (relied on by criminals partaking in a specific crime)

Criminal use, a New Crime emerging
how scopolamine / Devils Breath work ...


One more FYI Has your eye ever twitched? 

Acetycholine is thought to cause the twitching many people experience when the axon of the nerve cell becomes hypersensitive to the electrical messages firing within and the signalling substance "acetycholine" is delivered to the muscles. 

Monday, August 31, 2015

You don't believe the criminal and horror stories about Scopolamine and Devils Breath? Educate yourself.

Nothing annoys me more than to watch videos or to read comments made by people who claim that the horror stories about scopolamine (Devil's Breath) are
“blown out of proportion, far-fetched or that they are not possible."

Would someone please provide me with the information that these people have that supports the idea that the nasty effects and horror stories about scopolamine aren’t true or that they are not possible?

What facts are these people basing their information on?

When I read these things, I think of someone having a minor cut and stating; 
“don’t worry, my skin will heal itself” and an ignorant person saying; “that’s not possible” 
and only because the ignorant person isn't familiar with and does not know how the process of healing, works with the body. 

Well, it’s the same with Scopolamine and you'll learn how in a minute.

The example above with a cut may have been a poor example, but you get the point.
If you don’t know how it works or how it effects the brain, then why make an ignorant comment and misguide people?

It would be far better if those people said; "I don't want to believe that a drug like that exists".

If I told you there was a drug that could take away your pain, even the most severe pain, would you believe me? 

If I told you there was a drug that could knock you out, would you believe me?

Of course you would, because you know they exist, but let me understand this …

You don’t believe there is a drug that could eliminate your free – will, erase your memory, that would make you comply with demands and all without you’re knowledge?

Maybe it’s the way its worded:

Eliminate free-will, erase your memories, makes you compliant, while you have no knowledge

Sounds kind of science fictioness huh?

How about this, 

Lets re-word these things a little;

* Don’t realize what you’re doing

* Don’t remember what you did

* Easily willing and coerced to do things you normally wouldn’t do

* While you are not aware

Sounds a little more believable right?

Let’s see, drinking lots of alcohol could cause the first three, and possibly the fourth and anesthesia would definitely cause the fourth.

But allegedly … the drug scopolamine can’t? (You'll read how it can in a minute)

For the most part, we don’t know or even pay attention to how alcohol or anesthesia does what it does, but we know it does because we or someone we know have experienced it first hand and we see it when we watch drunk people, when they get arrested for doing something they would not normally do, or when we interact with people getting ready for surgery or when they come out stating:

"I don't remember, time seemed suspended."

However, scopolamine does three additional things that alcohol and anesthesia do not do; unlike alcohol and anesthesia which leaves your system within hours, scopolamine takes days, causes delirium and while you look “normal” (well, for the most part and hours after the initial drugging)

We also know that alcohol can and does kill brain cells over-time, scopolamine however has the ability to cause greater brain damage, and much quicker. 

If you don’t know the chemistry of or how the majority of people suffer delirium (it has to do with the cholinergic system), then don’t speculate that scopolamine can’t induce delirium or psychosis, remove your free-will, or that you can't appear perfectly normal outwardly while drugged with it.

BTW the "loss of free-will" is true and it also concerns the Cholinergic system, Acetycholine memory loss and confabulation (more on that here)

So this post is basically to de-bunk the debunkers and to provide some education.

Another interesting note I'd like to add is that most news stories you hear or read often confuse the idea that the plants that scopolamine are from, come from Colombia or Haiti.

Like this one

However, scopolamine is simply known for being frequently used in Colombia for many, many years, but the plants themselves are widely grown and available in many other places besides Colombia.

For instance, I have entire collection of them, as well as other highly toxic plants and many different species of them, but I originally got the majority of them from Florida and Minnisota, not Colombia and certainly not from Haiti.

Where I am, its not illegal to grow them or to sell them for that matter, it is instead illegal to ingest and or eat them, which I think is the majority of the case in most states.

The reputation of scopolamine and its relation to Colombia also stem from historical stories like this one ...

"There is a town in Antioquia called Segovia (in Colombia), which has a reputation as a town where the women are witches, because they say that when they are attracted to a man he subsequently falls in love with them. But it's not really the case that they actually fall in love, it's more that the women look for a way to slip him a dose of borrachero (a tree that contains tropane alkaloids; scopolamine), so they lose their freewill and stay with them. The women continually give their lovers small doses of the plant, in their breakfast, coffee, drinks, so they remain with her forever." 

By today's standards, the witches of back in the day could actually present as a herbalist (but who may have malicious intent), medicine doctors, witch doctors, 
shamans (who may have malicious intent) etc.
Make no mistake, not unlike many traditional professions, in every walk of life and in any profession, there will always be some unethical people using their knowledge about something you know nothing about to take advantage of you.

So be aware.

Familiarize yourself with how Acetylcholine is used in your body, anti-chlonergenics and the Basal Forebrain and you will begin to understand how scopolamine can do what it does.

Provides detail & is easy to read and to understand 

If you are still not convinced that scopolamine can do all the evil things you may or may not have heard of, get a copy of my book which explains in detail what it does, how it does what it does and how its being insidiously used for crime in the U.S.

Friday, August 28, 2015

How are my own Angel's doing you ask? ... Angel's Trumpet

The newest addition to my collection are my new white, pink and peach little 
Angel's Trumpets ...

New Peach Angels Trumpet 
The adult's, peach Angel's Trumpet

To see how these little Angels are doing today, read below.
Angel's trumpet is a heat-loving tropical shrub  In cold-winter regions, you can grow it in a container and take it indoors over winter or simply treat it as an exotic, amazing annual. It grows in moist, well-drained soil.

New Pink Angel
Pink adult

These beautiful fragrant plants open up after dark and often remain open until the sunlight hits them the next morning.

The perfume that the flowers release is an extremely sweet, intoxicating scent. These plants will bloom year round if given the proper care.

Remember, Angel's Trumpet (Brugmansia) is of a dark and powerful flower, a deadly and poisonous plant which is at the same time one of the oldest healing herbs.

New White Angel
White angels

The sweet and distinctly erotic fragrance of this night-blooming plant, with its beautiful large flowers and its deep green 6-inch leaves and seeds found in their wlanut shaped spiney pods, are highly hallucinogenic, or more precisely; a very potent deliriant.

Despite that they are so beautiful in appearance, Angel's Trumpet plants contain lethal levels of poison, namely tropane alkaloids atropine, hyoscyamine and scopolamine.

These active deliriants usually produce deep confusional states in which a person 
loses the ability to tell reality from fantasy, expresses bizarre or violent behavior and experiences elevated body temperature and heart rates, very painful photophobia and a Loss of memory, coma and death.

Among other darker stories, Angel's Trumpet was also one of the ingredients of witches’ flying ointment—an hallucinogenic balm used by witches, consisting of a fatty base and a blend of various herbal extracts. 

The ointment was poisonous when ingested but it was absorbed more slowly into the body if applied on the skin. With the help of the mixture, the witches were able to fly to the Sabbath on their broomsticks, to attend the occultists’ meetings at midnight.

Its actually where the idea of witches flying on a broom originated.

After only a few weeks, my newest Angels are doing great!

Before                                                           After a few weeks 

My newest White Angel Trumpet
My newest White Angel is nice and healthy

Before                                                        After a few weeks 

My newest Peach Angel 
My newest Peach Angel is quite healthy

Before                                                       After a few weeks 

My newest Pink Angel 
My newest Pink Angel is nice and healthy too!

Pictures of my newest Belladonna plants:

Before                                                                       After 2 and 1/2 weeks 

After planting 100 seeds
The first Baby Bella of this batch has been born


4 weeks after planting
More baby Bella's growing

More on Atropa Belladonna here 

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Do not underestimate these plants while keeping them and or working with them.

My newest plants

I'm excited!

I always get excited when my new seeds sprout.
This is one of my newest Atropa Belladonna sprouts as of August 27, 2015 from my collection.

Here is some great info about Atropa Belladonna ...

Belladonna (Atropa belladonna, also known as "Deadly Nightshade") was thought to be an herb tended by the Devil himself, except on Walpurgis Night, when the Devil retired to prepare a witches' sabbath.

Belladonna is one of the most toxic plants found in the Eastern Hemisphere and has been considered
one of the most poisonous herbs in the world.

From suicide to murder, belladonna has been a favorite tool for centuries to bring about a quick (and unpleasant) death.

This plant contains potent tropane alkaloids; scopolamine, atropine & hyoscamine which can produce hallucinations and delirium

There were, of course, many evil uses.  

Atropa belladonna is a perennial with reddish, bell-shaped flowers that bear glossy-coated, black berries.

The plant earns its sinister nicknames, as its foliage and berries are extremely toxic, containing potent dosages of tropane alkaloids.

Belladonna blooms in midsummer through early fall, and its roots are thick, fleshy, and white, growing to about 6 inches or more in length.

Atropa Belladonna
It has a long history of use as a medicine, cosmetic, and poison. 

Before the Middle Ages, it was used as an anesthetic for surgery; the ancient Romans used it as a poison (the wife of Emperor Augustus and the wife of Claudius both were rumored to have used it for murder); and, predating this, it was used to make poison-tipped arrows. 

Close up of Belladonna

The genus name Atropa comes from Atropos, one of the three Fates in Greek mythology: "To cut the life" and the name "bella donna" is derived from Italian and means "beautiful lady" because the herb was used in eye-drops by women to dilate the pupils of the eyes to make them appear seductive.

The symptoms of belladonna poisoning include:

dilated pupils, sensitivity to light, blurred vision, tachycardia, loss of balance, staggering, headache, rash, flushing, severely dry mouth and throat, slurred speech, urinary retention, constipation, confusion, hallucinations, memory loss, delirium, convulsions and death.

On August 15, 2015, I planted 100 atropa belladonna seeds.
In the first image above, that little sprout is the first one to sprout in this particular batch.

Belladonna Berries

The fruit and berries appear green when growing, but, as the toxins get stronger in the ripening stage, they turn to a shiny black color. 

Not only are its dark berries sometimes known as murderer’s berries, sorcerer’s berries, and devil’s berries, they are thought to be the poison that caused Juliet to appear dead in Shakespeare’s “Romeo and Juliet.”

Belladonna is so toxic that eating only a small quantity of its leaves or berries can be fatal to humans.

Needless to say, when I handle any of my plants, their roots, water from their roots and or berries, I do so with gloves, and soap and water nearby.

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